Vietnam Tom Conspiracy

There is a video out right now wherein a 67 year old bearded man and a young black male with corn rows get into an argument, which turns into a shoving match, which turns into a brutal beat down… with the old man as the victor. It is not a video for the faint-hearted, but I had a couple of thoughts.

First, there is something redeeming in seeing an old guy stand his ground and come out on the winning end of the equation, as this is so often NOT the case. However, let us not presume the old man absolved of all wrong-doing. He WAS provoking the younger man in the beginning of the video: “Let’s get back to business; how much you charge me for a spit shine?” isn’t exactly the best ice breaker with a stranger on a bus who already appears to be giving you grief.

He backs off his original jibe and acts naive, as though the younger man was truly offering to shine his shoes (which I find hard for the old man to have believed). What happens afterword is somewhat sad. You have innocent bystanders who would love nothing but to be anywhere else. You have friends of the young man in the back taunting their friend to “beat his white ass!” and who later proceed to take and go through the old man’s beard after he exits the bus.

Anyways, a fight ensues, with a surprising result, and then it ends. And we move on. Right? Well… there’s a second part of the story, and it involves an old guy with a beard named Thomas Brusco (Tommy Slick, Vietnam Tom). There is a man taking credit for the fight who looks like the man on the bus, but I have good reason to believe it is not the same man. Here is why.

First, they have different voices, very different. For evidence, listen to when the guy on the bus says, “Why you being so hostile, man?” He sounds more like Chong of Cheech and Chong than the gravel voiced Tommy Slick. They also are from different walks of life. The man on the bus wears ironed shorts with his t-shirt tucked in and a belt around his waist. He carries an organic grocery bag with him, and has an affinity for keeping his nose from running with a Kleenex. Tommy Slick is a street urchin who smokes and wears semi-gangster clothing, flat billed cap and a camoflauge jacket. He is much more urban than the man on the bus.

Furthermore, when Tommy Slick gave an interview going back over what happened on the bus, his story just doesn’t hold up. It sounds more like he’s just reciting what he saw on the video, using key words from what the camera caught. And there’s a problem with his story. First he relays what is said on the video, that he needed to spit shine his shoes for a funeral on Friday. But later in the interview, he falls apart saying his mama died two days later. So which is it? Furthermore, in the interview he says he is joking with his white friend next to him, but the man on the bus is flanked by a black man and a white woman. Where’s the white friend?

And some of what Tommy Slick has to say is just preposterous. He claims the man he defended himself against was a murderer, and convicted of robbery. That the black man had a knife on him, and that the old man had a knife of his own for protection. I don’t know where you’d put your knife with those shorts on. He said that the man was going to serve 10 years in prison, and another 18 for robbing him. I didn’t see the young man robbing anyone, though his friends did take the old man’s bag to the back of the bus.

I don’t know why I felt compelled to unearth the truth, but trust me when I tell you that the man on the bus is not the same guy pretending to be him in interviews, the man who calls himself Tommy Slick. Whether or not Tommy Slick is the same old man who gets tased at the Oakland A’s game… that’s for you to decide, but I have my suspicions about Tommy Slick, and how he might have gotten his nickname.

I won’t post the video(s) on my site, due to their graphic nature, but if you’re so inclined you can try and learn more about the 67 year old man bus incident.


20 Responses to “Vietnam Tom Conspiracy”
ich's cran Says:

Leave it to a person like you to try to justify the fact this younger guy put his hands on the old dude first.
You’re disgusting.

What would you do?
That young guy punched him first.
Little coward like yourself would probably do nothing.
Or, you’d be the thug instigating the situation.

I’m amazed that there’s someone (you) trying to justify the young dude.

February 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
oakland psycho Says:

it is really him one of my brothers has a tenant in his building that knows him. we were hanging out having a bbq and the tenant brought him over let me just tell you the man is nuts he did not stop talking about it. its him though i know it.

March 3rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Zachary Says:

You’re a moron and obviously didn’t hear what he was saying. I hate biased people like you. He was talking with his friend about getting his shoes shined and the black man butted into his conversation by saying how it has to be a black man doing the shoe shining. Tom said no and that it could be a Chinaman for all the black man knows. And then the black guy offered to shine his shoes (sarcastically) but then Tom came right back at him and said he could (calling his bluff) and then the black racist man got upset and started threatening Tom so we went to the front. The racist black man came up to the front and punched Tom and Tom fought back in self-defense. Then the racist black man’s fiance took his bag (she’s a cop by the way) and looked through his belongings and took money from his wallet.

Tom stood up for himself. Also, in an interview the black man admitted he was “a little” drunk. How can you be so narrow not to see all of this when it’s right in plain sight? Answer: because you’re still a closet racist and assume that every fight between a white person and a black person is caused by the assumed racist white man. Well guess what, life isn’t like that. Jackasses are jackasses no matter what color skin they have. Get it in your head.

May 7th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
travrosty Says:

its the same guy, he has the same tattoos on his forearms in all the videos, he also has the same acutely sloped nose at the bridge of his nose in all the videos, its the same guy!

July 11th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
WhySoHostile? Says:

I’m glad to hear someone else agrees with me- right from the first time I saw the alleged interviews with Vietnam Tom I thought his voice on and off the bus, along with all his story inconsistencies, didn’t match up. I want to know 1) if the female shooting the video went on air, along with the dude with cornrows, why didn’t the real Tom come forward? 2) How is it that NO ONE knows the real man’s name??? You’d think of some 10 million+ people that have seen it, one of them could say “Oh that’s John Smith.” 3) Who would win if the real EBM confronted the fraud Tom Brusso?

I suppose it has a lot to do with the guy being older and this being a web culture thing, but still, you’d think someone would have set the record straight by now. I really want to know who that guy is. Anyone in Oakland keeping an eye out for this guy?

July 20th, 2010 at 1:58 am
whocares Says:

I don’t really care who it is. I just appreciate and love a video that gives me joy and laughter seeing and old person give what’s what to and younger fella, thinking he can do what he likes just because said person who was arguing with happend to be at the other side of 55.

would he have walked towards him had the ‘old man’ been 30something, built like a brick shit house? more fool for him thinking he would be intimidated.

whoever he is. Legend.

July 23rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
RonnySlats Says:

I lived in North Beach for a few years. I knew this guy as “Shadow Boxer” That’s the name we gave him- He would shadow box in the Square on top of the stone monuments. We would talk on occassion and sometimes throw the pigskin around– He is a border line transient (Not a bum but hangs out with them)and a man with a lot of stories that change often. He’s well known in the neighbor and the guy writing the story above is reading to far into this and totally clueless. I guarantee you its the same guy and I can also guarantee you that story writer has no idea what transpired. Tommy’s story will change everytime he tells it- that’s just who he is. I’ve seen Tommy urinating on a the front window of a fancy restaurant and I have also seen him help old ladies cross the street. Bottom line is he walked away from the guy on the bus- and the young guy still pursued him. To whoever wrote the story above “Don’t quit your day job” I would also suggest watching Coloumbo re-runs- it would really benefit you to get more right than Tommy’s age – which by the way is probably not 67.

September 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 am
Flybot77 Says:

Actually,the Epic Beard Man was talking to his buddy about getting one his brothers to shine his shoes for a funeral.Ive been around some old school Vets who refer to their friends as brothers all the time.Anyway the black guy walks by and hears “brother,”shine” and “shoes” and butts in and says “why a brother got to shine yo shoes”.The old guy apparently thought he offered to shine his shoes so he ask him how much he charges.Done

September 5th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Paul Todd Says:

Jesus, who are you? Mr conspiracy theory or something? Its blatantly the same guy and the reason that the story differs? Because Tom is mentally ill and was bigging himself up. Surely you can tell that hes unstable? I have researched this myself, read all relevant articles and watched all relevant videos and YES it is the same guy. Even Toms Sister backs this up. Its about time you did more research.

Heres one of your quotes from above story

“and who later proceed to take and go through the old man’s beard after he exits the bus.”

WHAT? They went through his beard after he left the bus? What the fuck? It must have been a long beard to still be on the bus after Tom had got off. Also why the fuck would you go through someones beard?

Furthermore its not Thomas Brusco is Thomas Brusso, get your facts right man….

October 17th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Paul Todd Says:

One more final point, check out the video of AC Transit fight, look at EPG T-shirt as he gets of the bus. What does it say on the front? Its 100% visible but i’ll tell you “Tom Slick” is what it says. What do you have to say about that subby?

October 17th, 2010 at 2:03 am
dr123 Says:

It’s definitely him. You can tell by the tattoos

October 26th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
zach Says:

i agree with whocares. 100%

December 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
losdha Says:

Check his left arm in both videos bud, similar tatoo. You missed that one brains.

March 29th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
losdha Says:

oh and to add i doubt the mind of a 67 year old veteran who says he smokes weed is going to be completly accurate telling any story.

March 29th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Breanna White Says:

Wow, You really need to do some fact checking before writing article.
You lost your creditably so quickly.
Any computer armchair warrior can spout an opinion.
Shameless.

May 31st, 2011 at 5:46 pm
peter Machinist Says:

hey vitnam tom i respect you your not a racisit and a good man for beating that black mans ass

June 19th, 2011 at 8:34 am
mastif Says:

tbh i think he is a fucking legend and if youve got the time to criticise hime for standing up to some punk ass black dude then dude youve got issues nwould you just stand there and take that shit? no obviously not dick head

October 7th, 2011 at 7:42 am
kickitin Says:

WELL SAID MASTIF!!!! VIET NAM TOM ROCKS AND I CANT GET OFF CAPITALS

October 7th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Tracey Says:

His voice does change periodically, in nearly every video of him. It even changes in the bus video. When he asks, “why are you being so hostile man?” It changes, then goes back to the way it sounded before. So how does the author reason that this must be an imposter? There might be a remote chance of it if his voice was different throughout the entire video compared to all other videos, but it’s only different for about one sentence. This should be obvious to the author if they have ears which they obviously do so I have to question their intellectual capacity. Do they think the “real” Tom disappeared and the fake one slipped in unnoticed while the bus video was being recorded? Yeah, they’re working together.

The man has serious psychological problems, always has, and it’s not from Vietnam according to his sister in an interview. In fact according to her—he wasn’t even in Vietnam. He’s also not 67, he’s 63, and at the time of the bus incident he may have been 62 because I believe he celebrated a birthday very recently. He also usually refuses to take his medications according to the woman identified as his sister and this is why he goes nuts and gets loud and keeps going on and on and tells crazy stories that aren’t even true.

This is a good example of why you shouldn’t believe everything you see, hear or watch. Things usually aren’t exactly as they seem. Hell, I admit to being a little disappointed myself, he seems like a cool guy with a big heart and he’s definitely not a coward, he’s just not mentally stable

October 16th, 2011 at 4:37 am
jpb Says:

The black guy should be more respectful towards his elders. I have had many arguments with elderly people, but never once did I even think about physically attacking any of them regardless of what they said. The black guy got a reality check – a good old fashioned ass whoopin. As for whether the old guy in the video is the same guy claiming to be him, who cares? The video teaches a lesson.

December 14th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

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